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2. The inconveniancyes of admitting such as live in other Towns for ye grounds
before mentioned page 87.
Answ this has bin several times considered by ye church & will be considered as to
admission of all that live near us but for Children of the Church we cannot
ano
deny to admitt ym living neer to us tho in other Towns bounds, and as for ye
person in question the Church ingaged (notwthstanding his habitation was out of our
in
bounds) the[y] voted that he should joyne heer if he continued his desire of it
was
3. The party propounded has partaken with us in all Gods ordinances & yrfore it an ear
nest for his joyning untill or church be better united we feare ther may be some
singular Ends to in it yet to inlarg our differences
Answ: Tho he has partaken with us at ye lords table yet not soe capable to be watcht
over nor to attend such dutyes as Church members by covenant are obliged to besides
it is not accounted orderly by the Churches that such as comunicate constantly wth a
church (being members of other churches[)] should continue in yt way long with out
joyning wth ye church they soe communicate with now ye party propounded has lived
by us since he removed from Lynne church years[61] soe yt it is time being
dismissed thence to joyne with us wth whom he constantly joynes in ye worship of god
especially the church having soe long since agreed to grant his desire of joyning
with us & noe just ground appearing to hinder the performance of or promise
& for sinister Ends that ye officer & church has in it, as is feared Especially such
a wicked end as to inlarg or differences it becomes them yt set ther hands to
such speeches to consider what Paul ses 1 Cor 13 5 charity behaves not itself
unseemly it thinks noe ill
4 The devil or adversary being cunning would be glad to se any bone of contention
cast in amongst that soe or contentions & omisions which are already too great
must be inlarged & or love one to another abated, now we ought to live & con
tinue in love one wth another
Answ oh that ye subscribers [---] would doe as yei say its they who by their irregu
lar carriages several of ym that have made devisions & raysed contentions amo
=ngst us wthout cause as the church dos judg
And wheras its added it has not bin practised in or church but if two or 3
have bin dissatisfied ye church in such cases has forborn
To this was answered yt if one dissented we ought not to proceed in case yr
was ground suffitient for his dissent, but on ye other side tis known that some
has bin admitted [-] when Several has not held up their hand but have sub
mitted to ye vote of ye body of the Church, & in case 6 or 7 dissent wthout
just ground, when ye reasons of dissent have bin answered to ye satisfaction
of ye body of ye church in yt case the Church is not to be hindered in going
wth
on ye work of god for ye dissent of a few, but such are rather to be dealt
with all as offendors after due means used for yr conviction. Mr Hooker
survey part 3 cap 1. page 6. Mr Cotton way cap 5 sect 3. page 95[62]
Object Caleb Bointon lived in ye Town when he was admitted
Answ. he onely for a few dayse or weeks came to a garison house in the time
of great danger for by ye Indians & Neh might have done the same
not to say alsoe that he shall not be admitted except he live in the Town
an answer that has waight enough in it for Such a cavil
5 The church of Ipswich shuld be consulted with whether they be wiling he should
ioyn wth us he being one of their Town
Answ: 1 we need not ask leave of any church to admitt the children of our church
to comunion wth us if they dwell soe neer us as to be capable to attend the
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[62] Thomas Hooker, Survey of the Summe of Church Discipline (1648), Pt. III, ch. I, p. 6: “thus much is required is undeniable by the rules of right reason: for he that lives in known omissions of duty, or commission of sin, he professeth himself by that practice, not willing to submit to the rules of Christ, and therefore not fit to be his subject, or to enjoy the priviledge of his kingdom, which reveals the authority of his Scepter: Nay, by such a practice he professeth to persist, and to be pertinacious in sin, and therefore in case he was in the Church, he was fit to be cast out and censured, not worthy, then, to be received.” John Cotton, Way of the Churches of Christ in New-England (1645), p. 95: “But if the grounds of such as do dissent, do upon due consideration appear to have little or no weight in them, the officers of the Church, or some other of the Brethren, do declare unto them the invalidity thereof: If they be satisfied, the matter in hand doth then proceed with the common consent of all; if they be not satisfied yet, it is either through want of light,(and so through weaknesse of judgement) or through strength of pride, and so through stiffnesse of will.”